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I think the most horrific part of middle school bullying was finding out that the school WAS telling the parents and the parents literally said "when they are at (religious school program) they are your problem, not mine". I was told this by the administrator, who left after his first year, obviously. The teacher quit, too. A group of parents looked into an alternative tutoring program that didn't end up coming to fruition. Just an out and out deliberate failure by a group of parents determined to let their daughters disrupt, and a school that refused to kick them out. I've never forgotten it, and unfortunately my child hasn't either.

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Ooof that is disturbing. I heard about a parent who got her kid out of a big group punishment (museum outing + paper) for an out-of-school offense b/c she said her 6th grade son wasn't a part of the offending group and she believed him.

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I get that it might be hard work to do a paper but a museum outing as punishment says iffy things to me about what that school considers disciplinary. I had to read that a couple of times because I thought the punishment was being kept AWAY from the group going to the museum.

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"Group punishment" is going to a MUSEUM and then writing a paper on it? I wish! (Group punishment is a bad idea as I recall involving a bunch of sullen students sitting quietly and pouting through study hall but I - regress.)

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Thanks for reminding me ;) there was also a group punishment in this group and the parents just didn't send their kids to religious school that week so they didn't have to perform the teeny bit of community service. Truly, the worst year ever!

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Group punishment is the stupidest, laziest discipline there is. It literally does the opposite of what it claims.

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normally I'd agree with you but in this case it was a trip to a Holocaust museum and an accompanying paper so in that case getting out of it had a different flavor.

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OK WELL that changes things ...

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Yipes!

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And they let their kid get out of it?? I'd be PISSED about that too.

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hahah ok this is very important context Claire LOL

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